I just looked at your Primrose, she’s beautiful!!
I only see 1 picture though
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Thank you so much 
…see…his site is so weird…i was working on my listing and stopped to figure out which pix I wanted to put on the listing…so chose…list later or whatever it says…picked March 27 at 11:50 pm…so no one should have been able to see it until i hit the “list now” button 
Anyway…all the pix are now on and you should be able to see them. 
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I do not list at all so just jumping in as a neutral party… Play middle ground from a business point of view… I have not fully read all the details so this is just basic info to think about.
Anywhere, whether it is newspaper, television or online sale venues that offer services for specific items will charge you a fee to use their service… and if you want to feature your item , you have to pay an extra fee for that.
The thing is that if someone is visiting a reborn doll site, they are looking for a reborn and whether they buy it may not depend in whether it is featured… they will search more likely on affordability or particular aspects they are looking for in the doll… That is not saying that the featured dolls do not get more exposure and have the potential to sell more quickly but if you are really interested in buying you will search past the featured items.
I do understand the frustration and especially for those who list high dollar dolls but for most it will not make a lot of difference to what you are paying now from what I can see.
Another positive point is that this also keeps items like clothing or other small dollar items from taking ‘feature’ spots because it allows the person to just list in their nursery and save the credits.
Last but not least, maintaining a website is ‘business’ and a lot of work - just like making dolls is a business if you are trying to sell them. As you get better you increase your price because you have ‘built’ your reputation and experience. Dave has done the same thing… He created this site which has allowed a lot of ladies to concentrate on doll making or for those that do not have the expertise or the time or interest to create or maintain a site themselves to still have the exposure to sell their dolls on a site that is specific to selling reborns (not like Ebay where your dolls gets lost in the ever flowing tide of knockoffs) and has maintained it and ‘grown it’ for many years… I am sure it was not meant to be a charity so he would want to make money over his cost and for his time and effort, (prices for everything have gone up and after awhile you can no longer just absorb those and still stay in business) SO, just like you do when selling your dolls…your prices increase as your reputation grows, right?.. IF he is able to make a bit more money, don’t you think he has earned it.
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He should have just raised the price of the membership a bit. That would have been less complicated.
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I’m an old dog and old dogs don’t learn new tricks easily…but…it is confusing…but I think he is trying to make it better I suppose.
Neither Ebay or Etsy gives anyone “front page” or “featured” time. (I used to hear the more clicks an item got, the higher up it became in a search)
When I use Ebay (of course I am a seller…not looking to buy…just looking to compare) I type in a specific kit name…or use the “sort by” option for highest price (trying to weed out cheap fakes),
It IS nice having your doll be right there when you go to Dave’s site, although, depending on how many people are listing that day can drive your doll further down…but you have the option to use your credits or not…or buy some more…which I have never done. I used the free once a day “feature” and that was it…ya’ll know I’m a cheapskate!!! 
On initially reading, it seems VERY confusing…but as more people questioned and he explained more…I don’t think it’s as bad as when he first laid it out…also…I have to read things a few times to get stuff to sink in… my brain is NOT a sponge…more like a sieve these days… 
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Yes…the more dolls you list will eat up your credits…but at least he is giving us SOME credits…again…yes…Ebay listing is usually free…but they will scrape 14% off of whatever you sell your item for AND whatever you have charged for shipping.
If I sell a doll for $1000…with $25 shipping…Ebay will get $143.50 of that sale.
And Paypal will take 4% so that would be another $40 to them.
WHICH…is why I came to Reborns…so even with this new system…it is STILL a ton cheaper than Ebay or Etsy.
I STILL haven’t figured out where or IF there is an option or not on the whole email thing. I don’t care if an email goes out…I won’t use my credits for that at all!!!
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I have not used Reborns Dot Com in quite awhile so my understanding might be off. Please tell me if I get the changes.
- You could have a free nursery which is space to put items and Dave considered it worth it for him because artists direct people to the site which helps advertise reborns. Your items would not show in searches and your nursery would not be listed. This will continue.
- You could have a paid nursery at 29.99 per 30 days. Your nursery is listed, items show in just listed, and items show in searches. If you want more front page exposure for an item then you paid more for that through credits sold in blocks of 10.00. Followers that opted to receive notifications when you list an item would get an email automatically. The changes are that you pay the 29.99 per month fee and that basically just allows you to list items and buyers to pull those items up if they search words matching the title (not sure if description key words and those description boxes we check play a role in the search, maybe?). If you want any front page exposure including just listed, featured item, or featured nursery you must now pay for that as well as for emails to go out to followers. The 29.99 includes 10.00 of credits towards this exposure.
Is this right?
I went looking for myself and became more confused than I was reading comments here. The statement in the faqs says
The part where it states that to get exposure to the thousands of daily visitors you need to pay a listing fee makes me think that he means that the item will not be seen otherwise. He knows how many clicks happen after a specific search verses just browsing to see what catches the eye so he knows that this is something he can charge for. Ebay does not charge a membership fee or a listing fee, you can opt to pay an extra percentage of the selling price to have your listing promoted and this would be on top of the final value fee…but you do not pay anything if the item does not sell. I want to support reborns dot com, but people have been saying items take longer to get a buyer so having to pay 29.99 without even getting exposure to have a chance of selling seems a little high to me. Based on the fee structure and the ability to pay to bump your listing up every two hours seems that the 10.00 dollar credit would be eaten away quite quickly. I am not sure about this…
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He may not be taking large percentages like those other sites, but I wonder what will be the increase in rates as time goes on. He’s made sooo many changes in the last 2 years and upped the price quite a bit from what it used to be. And he was still making out back then. The amount he is taking is also very minimal, since he’s taking a cut off of every little thing, even down to a coming soon listing that is going to add up. And it’s not so much that he’s dipping in, in small ways like that, but as a whole on 611 people (that’s how many nurseries there are at the moment) that’s going to be a good chunk of change. It’s like he’s trying to see how much more can I get out of these hobbyists. Because that’s what most of us are I would assume. To me, him saying that people with higher priced dolls need to “contribute more” (which I noticed he deleted that part of his post after @ellakabella called him out) is penalizing them. Anyone could post for a higher price whether they can make the sale or not. He’s getting too big for his britches.
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I hope somehow he removes this new “system” I can’t afford to do allat 
. Seems like the Page keeps getting more and more complicated for everyone involved 
. I sell quicker on Instagram most times.
I understand the effort and intention but I don’t agree with it, especially since everyone was so used to the way it was 
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Oh my I did not see that he deleted that! She was right to speak out. I could see it if higher priced dolls got a special section or other privileges but they don’t.
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I think you should delete this comment. Continued political divide is ruining this forum and this country. We desperately need to get this forum back to a safe place to talk about dolls. 
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Email check box is on the very bottom of your listing, at least it was there in January (I am on a free nursery now).
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It’s gone…and it seems no one can laugh at foolishness on BOTH sides these days…sad…everyone takes umbrage over the slightest things…
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I might be wrong, but I have an opposite assumption (at least based on the filing taxes topics) - most people have a business account and run it as their business, not a hobby. Those people can write off any expenses, so increase on Reborns doesn’t play much difference for them.
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I guess the mentality that was expressed last month here on the forum ‘Look she posts so many and charges that much!’ get to him also.
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Every time Dave makes a change, it always comes with an unhappy wave. But after a short while that wave subsides and people get used to a new way. Because, let’s be honest, his site does bring sales, not as expensive as other selling platforms (unless like you when you do your own advertisement which is a big respect from me). And this is his business. I think everyone in his place would think about ways to get more profits from it.
I assume that in this case artists that post 1-3 dolls a month are still will be in the $10 credits range or should increase their prices by $2-5 dollars per doll.
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Oh well, I am just assuming, but I am probably not correct.
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I definitely notice that though I’m not usually one to really make comments about it. This one just stings a bit.
I feel it’s a little too nit-picky, now we have to pay for every advertisement aspect… whenever sales were already incredibly slow before extra prices were rolled in. I know there’s plenty of people who would pay for a month+credits and get no sales. Now we have to pay more for very possibly the same thing 
We could very well price a bit higher to cover costs but I’m seeing so many beautiful dolls just floating around. A lot of times unless you’re a very popular/well known artist you won’t have luck selling unless you lower your prices.
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I absolutely agree with you, but unfortunately there are not many other selling sites alternatives and Dave knows that.
Another thought (but since I am not active there now so I might be wrong) - before artists paid $29.99 and to be seen on that moving ‘advertisement’ carousel artists pay an extra $1 just to be exposed for an hour or so.
Once for me it lasted just 5 min as another artist came from the show and paid for many-many dolls to be there. It bumped off every other artist from that line,
Now $10 of credits are embedded into $29.99 and artists can choose what to use them for. Correct?
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I get what you’re saying but there are 618 nurseries on reborns.com. Even if only 25% are listing there is still $4633.45 in monthly income just from membership fees. I’m pretty sure there’s more than 25%. 50% would be $9266.91 in membership only income. It seems to me that that should be enough without all the nickel and diming, that require monitoring by us to keep track of, that is being made to sound like he’s doing us a favor.
Only dolls are Featured. Clothing, accessories, kits, etc. have separate categories that don’t require credits.
My biggest concern is that, without using credits, dolls are only seen in an artist’s nursery with no other exposure. So, I question whether having my dolls listed where most people won’t even see them is worth $29.99 per month.
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