Is this sand?

I started an ugly… it doesn’t upset me enough to tell the artist the doll is trash. She isn’t trash I replaced the weighting material in her head and my annoyance is just that, annoyance. I’m not overly angry about it. My whole thing is transparency. There are glass beads in the body. Clearly less expensive material was used in the head. Maybe the idea was that the dust won’t leak out of the head so no big deal? She isn’t entirely wrong there. It was just kind of a wtf moment that annoyed me. At the end of the day, I like her enough to keep her. :grin:

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I use larger glass beads in stockings in the head and body. I use smaller glass beads more like sand in the limbs, mixed with poly pellets. The limbs are completely sealed shut. When I advertise I do not differentiate between 2 sizes of glass beads. I just say weighted with glass beads and poly pellets.

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I say “weighted with two sizes of glass beads”. Sometimes I explain further and say fine glass in the limbs and larger glass beads in the head and torso. Normally I don’t.

I’m a bucket o’ media for the limbs and larger grit for the head and torso in stockings lady. :woman_shrugging:t4:

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I’ve always used the round bead kind but I know some prototype artists who use crushed glass and sell it as well.

I also feel it is fine to use as long as it isnt dusty and wont cut the vinyl, Recycled glass, etc

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I’ve always used recycled glass with no issues, it’s not perfectly round but there are no sharp prices at all! I do wash the dust off of it if there is any but this whole thread has me worried I need to switch :sob: my dolls from almost 9 years ago have it. I’d doesn’t fall out of the stockings like other glass beads can

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I wouldnt worry about it. Like I said I know popular artists that use it.
Just make sure it isnt dusty, sharp or seeping and it shouldnt be an issue

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I wouldn’t worry about it. You’re doing what lots of artists do and there’s nothing wrong with your method. If there was a problem with it you would have been notified by now by customers.

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I don’t use the fine sandblasting glass in the limbs because it is cheaper. I use it because it fills every crevice in the fingers and toes, has a solid feel, does not make any noise whatsoever and is heavy - which is the exact reason we fill the limbs. It’s not a cost factor whatsoever. It’s a preference. I completely seal my limbs with moleskin. If for some reason a customer thinks my limbs too heavy & wants to empty them, refill them and decides to stick their nose to the hole & inhales the dust - that’s on them. For Pete’s sake have we lost the assumption of common sense? And when I’m filling the limbs with my scoop & funnel I am not surrounded by a dust cloud.

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Me too…for the exact same reasons…I only fill my limbs about 2/3 full though.

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Well then my preference just isn’t blasting glass. :woman_shrugging: It’s crunchy and I don’t prefer a solid limb like it was hard plastic.

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Too much talk on here about what’s acceptable and unacceptable. One person’s preference is just that. One person’s preference. It doesn’t mean that’s the only correct way to do things.
As for the glass beads….Bean Shanine is a highly respected, high profile artist. I would be honored to have one of her dolls. And here’s what she puts inside them. Definitely not round pretty little beads. But she is no way in the wrong for using this glass.

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That artist you posted is transparent and has shared what she uses. Transparency is the important part. It isn’t about what’s used. It’s about being honest with what’s in a doll. I still think if glass beads are not the only thing you use then say what else is in there. Like I said before, I’ll just ask what else is in there next time. As a consumer it’s good to get education on a product. We don’t always know what to ask until it’s too late. That was this doll. I didn’t know that blasting material was so popular of a material in reborns. I also didn’t know it came so small that it looks and feels like sand. Lesson learned.

I don’t think she was deliberately hiding info. The only option for glass beads on Reborns dot com is fine glass beads. Super fine or big, it’s still glass beads. And since most of the glass beads come from sand blasting companies, how would anyone know what to call blasting material and what to call beads? All of it is blasting material, actually.

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Beads are round. Blasting glass is crushed glass which isn’t round. The description should have specified other materials. It was more stupid on my part than hers because I didn’t ask. When I listed mine with multiple weighting materials used the other materials were in the description. It isn’t hard to specify and it also isn’t hard to ask. Ergo why this was my bad and not necessarily her bad. I also didn’t know crushed glass was a thing that was common. Once again my bad. It really isn’t hard to add materials to the written description. It also isn’t hard to ask.

I kind of feel like I’m not being understood anymore with this… Clearly it isnt such a big deal that I want to return her. I think more than likely this whole baby fit of mine has turned into some crusade to justify a preference. I don’t really care what artists use. I’m not entirely against the crushed glass either. It just would have been nice to know it was there prior to the sale. In this particular case, had crushed glass or blasting material been in the description I would have passed on the doll. That’s all I’m saying.

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I’m actually really glad I read this thread, everyone has very strong onions but it has some great information. I usually use BB glass beads in the body and the sandblasting media from harbor freight in the limbs. I hate using BB glass beads in limbs because they crunch no matter how hard I try to pack them with polyfil. I had been putting in my description combination of fine and ultra fine glass beads. The only info I had to really go by was the bucket I buy, it says glass bead but it also says blast media, so I always assumed it was just ultra fine glass beads. While I personally don’t think it matters what you prefer to use I do think it is important for customers to know what materials they are getting. I never really realized the difference and how customers might feel about them until now

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In fact @Katinafleming is right, both are sandblasting medias. I can buy a variety of glass beads of different texture and shape at any sandblasting company.

I do agree that the artist should have disclose what material she used. I know that there’s only the glass bead check box, but she could have write it in the description.

I sometime use fine crush glass (like Bean use) in the limbs and I always mention it.

Yes it is a matter of preference so that’s why the artist should have disclose it.

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At what point do we disclose/not disclose? If I check glass beads can that not encompass all the grits? If I check Polyfil that means fil, whether it is Poly brand, Create a Craft, Fairfield, Quick Craft. It’s polyester filling. I don’t disclose what brand of paint thinner I use. Or that I paint while eating chocolates & Cheetos while watching Forensic Files in my undies. Maybe I’m too lackadaisical or don’t have enough $hits to give, but do people really care that much? It’s a doll, not cake. I’m not eating or serving it to guests. :woman_shrugging:

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And premium polyfil is different than regular polyfil. I’m extra and say both cuz they feel very different to me as a buyer

I can always tell when the round glass beads are used and I replace them with the fine crushed stuff cuz it feels better to me.

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Ahahahha I painted a doll once while binging the Harry Potter movies and told the new mom this :joy::joy::joy: I was like “hope you’re a Harry Potter fan” :joy:

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All I’m saying is beads are round. Everything else is not.

What if I sold you a doll with memory foam in it but listed it as polyfil? Not a big deal to most so why disclose it right?

What if I use glass beads and silicone in the body but just say glass beads? Why disclose it? Glass beads…silicone…it’s still weighting material.

Why not pour plastisol in the limbs and beads in the body then just say beads when I sell it. Not a big deal right?

What crazy consumer cares what their stuff is made of?

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