These are all non-toxic so they should not bother you. I do not notice any smell but I have limited sense of smell since I had covid. They don’t make me cough and have throat burn or itchy eyes like Odorless Mineral Spirits does. I cannot use that stuff in any brand. This is why I use Citrus Solvent instead of mineral spirits.
4 Likes
I must have gotten a bad batch because my Xodus thinner has a terrible odor, almost brings tears to my eyes. I don’t care for the way it behaves with the paint and I had a terrible time trying to get BB Maggie to cure, in fact, her paint NEVER cured and I ended up tossing her in the trash.
I’m trying the thinning medium from Irresistables this week and it’s behaving more like Genesis. At least it’s workable.
2 Likes
It may be a container issue they had some jars that were not PET free.
1 Like
Hmmm, nice 
I am seeing a lot of people really like the IRHSP products. They are ok and workable but not my favorite. The paints are not heavy in pigment so it takes a lot to get the same color as Genesis. The matte varnish is nicely matte but has to be thinned down or it will flake up under stress like rooting or as in my case was squeezing the eyes to insert eyes from the front on a warm head. I have only used their thinning medium in with their paints and it works but it is stringy to me. Overall they are viable products though if you like them.
2 Likes
What is that “PET”? I tried to Google it and ir bring everything about pets and pet free hotels.
PET plastic (polyethylene terephthalate)
This chemical sucks all the oil out of Genesis products and dries them out causing a chemical reaction that ruins them. It has since been found to be true of the Xodus products. I also read a while back that some of the Phoenix heat set paints were ruined by the containers they were put in as well. It must be something in common in these heat set paints.
4 Likes
Thank you!
1 Like
Thank you so much 
1 Like
I have a very good sense of smell and they don’t smell at all to me either. The only thing I can smell is what I’m pretty sure is actually the plastic bottle it’s in.
2 Likes
Sealer as in last step sealer? Or sealer acting as a primer before paint? If before, arw you just brushing on hands and feet straight from bottle then baking?
I no longer recommend it. My Shelley Marie medium has changed over time and I’m having trouble getting it to cure. It also has gone from matte in the beginning to shiny. I’m shaking it very well and it just hasn’t held up for me. 
I’ve been using IRHSP Liquithin instead for sealing hands and feet before painting. I brush it on very thin and try not to leave any brush strokes. I don’t pounce unless it’s too thick because I don’t want any texture. Sometimes I will just lightly press my wedge on a few areas to even it out
1 Like
Ever since the Thinning oil came out that is all I use now along with my Ecohouse Extra Mild Citrus solvent. I also still have some Genesis mediums left.
4 Likes
Awesome i actually just got some of the liquithin. I also have the xodus thinning oil, have you tried using that as a primer at all? If so how have you used it?
1 Like
I haven’t tried it as a primer. I don’t feel that the thinning oil would be enough to fill in pitting or pin dots on hands and feet, and that is the only reason I seal or prime them before painting. I haven’t really found a use for the thinning oil besides thinning heat set varnish with it.
1 Like
The xodus thinning oil works well for shiny areas, I just pounce it on and bake like normal. It’s not thick enough to fill pin holes, but it’s great for paint adhesion issues. I use it in my paint mixes instead of thinner, I find using it I don’t have issues with paint not taking well on fingers and toes. I love that it’s clear so doesn’t change my paint colors and it’s thin enough that you can still mottle well with it, you can use it instead of thinner or as an addition to help with flow and adhesion, or on its own help with adhesion.
4 Likes
Just oil with nothing else added?
1 Like
Same here! I also like using it in my hair paint.
2 Likes
Awe i was hoping youd chime in but i feel like im flooding your tutorials with questions all the time and i feel like you have answered it for me already and i forgot lol
1 Like
Yes just oil
1 Like