If you blow them up I see they are copies that have been slightly altered in the mouth or something and then the whole doll looks smaller and with different limbs. It is so sad. They really are cutely done and I am sure parents will flock to them. I see a couple that are recognizably Bonnie Brown babies with slight changes. Others I recognize but canât recall the names of the kits off hand.
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OMG!!! Depressing doesnât begin to cover it! I just canât believe it! Nothing is sacred anymore! 
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They are so, so CUTE and so, so affordable and yep, Iâm sure people are snapping them up like hotcakes. Meanwhile, our beautifully hand painted works of art sit there like lumps of coal.
We just canât win this fight, no matter how hard we try ~ too many pirates, scammers, knock offs, and copies and geez, even reborners who just plain donât care any more. This is maddening.
So keep painting or throw in the towel?
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so sad and discouraging
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Well, for what itâs worth ~ an outsiderâs opinion, I showed the site to my husband and his reaction was
âCheesyâ
He scrolled through, saw the reviews and said they were probably fake. He wondered if what they order is actually what they receive.
Then he said âYou donât have to worry about this, these are not your customers. People who buy these must be desperate or ignorant.â
So thereâs that 
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I totally agree with your hubby! I do not think they are that cute myself and look like play dolls, not true reborns. Maybe the whole term reborns is wrong for the art going forward? I donât know if anything can be done about these companies calling them reborns so maybe the community should get together and change what we call them. Just a thought. x
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Haha itâs funny that a post was created in reborns . com recently about that very thing (changing their name) but someone made a good point that the term might also be stolen 
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Yes I should have said I remember someone else saying that, I was thinking FB tho. Not my idea. Good point tho that it too could be hijacked. Iâm just thinking if we want to separate ourselves from these nasty fakes maybe a new term makes sense. And one that would not make sense for them to steal, like art doll or something but hopefully something more catchy. lol! I think the point was made that real reborning was taking a store bought doll and painting it, now that we are all painting kits, maybe itâs time. x
ughâŚedited for typos 
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I think itâs worth a shot. Iâve been wracking my brain trying to think of a catchy term lol
Handmade art baby 
thatâs all so got so far lol not very distinguishingâŚ
And then thereâs the chance someone has named their nursery or website something similar or whatever.
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They shouldnât be allowed to call them reborns because it refers to a specific method of making unique art dolls. These are cute, (stolen) manufactured play dolls. Reborns are not.
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This brand is available on Amazon. I have the company blocked on FaceBook. @jlesser called them out in 2022. There is a FaceBook group for people that own them to share. It is a closed group.
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This is exactly how I feel - they are not my customers. People will buy them for kids. We put disclaimer on our reborn dolls that they are the collectable art objects and should not be used for children.
Some of my dolls were bought for children, but majority of my customers are adults and true collector will not buy those fraud ârebornsâ.
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The problem is that ârebornâ is the search term. Changing it will limit results with returning the TRUE Reborns.
Also, postings the links to those fraud sites and clicking on it just out of curiosity brings traffic to their site and is putting them on top of the search.
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Yeah thatâs another problem with it. I think the best thing to do is be as descriptive as possible to help people see the difference between a true art doll and a factory one
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My first thought is they look like all the rest of the cheap and cheesy plastic dolls you can get from dollar general or the drug store. Anyone looking for a reborn knows what a reborn is and this is not them. Those who donât know the term Reborn might think there is a religious affiliation to them
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I made the mistake of clicking on the link to see them and had to block them on my FB just now when an add came up in my feed. They wasted no time on that! . 
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I agree Cheesy. They do not look hand painted just fast productions.
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What about calling the real reborn dolls, Artborns instead?
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I like that.
Hey Barbie survived the ugly dollar store Fashion dolls right?
If you google âfake rebornsâ Temu and amazon pop up âCome see what our customers have to say about Fake Rebornsâ âYes we have fake reborns for saleâ The AI doesât care, online it makes no difference and if you change the term, the knock off folks will change it.
Someone here wanted to register and trademark âreborn babyâ I was one of those people who didnât understand why, and why I should have to not use the term unless I asked her permission or paid. Back then I didnât get it, sadly now I do.
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I donât now if that would have made a difference though. Would the trademark have been for the one-of-a-kind status? The cheap dolls are looking so good lately I think they literally just have a factory of (probably women) workers who are doing rapid painting on each doll. Technically that could be called OOAK (in court?). Stealing sculpts though, indefensible!
I think this trend will fade and the real reborns will return to the forefront for collectors. Or, maybe we just need a new name! Itâs always been a confusing name anyway. Some people think every reborn is based on a baby that passed away and got âre-bornâ 
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