Import Fees

So this is wrong, let’s refund. But let’s also keep charging so companies can chase us around for refunds that won’t benefit the people who paid to begin with.

Do I have this right? I feel like I lost a few brain cells writing this out. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Ok…..so I found this:

The “overruled” ones were mainly a set of broad emergency tariffs from Trump’s second term; the longer-standing China tariffs and newer replacements remain in force.

Bottom line for unfinished/unassembled vinyl doll kits

** They remain subject to the original Section 301 tariffs from Trump’s first term (typically 7.5% or 25%, depending on the exact 10-digit HTS subheading).**

• Plus the new 12.5% forced-labor Section 301 tariff.

• Base MFN rate is usually Free (0%).

So…….it is the emergency tariffs that were implemented that are being refunded.

All other tariffs are still being collected. From the percentages listed above I think I don’t mind paying a tariff to try to stop forced and child labor.

And unless I’m reading this wrong….doll kits have been subject to tariffs for quite a while now according to this. I think why we never had to pay tariffs is that many suppliers used the “toy” category to fly under the radar???

** dolls (and doll-related items) have long been subject to U.S. import duties, (since about 1994), but whether a doll kit pays the higher “dolls” duty or a lower “toys” duty depends on how the kit/contents are classified by customs (and on the exact HTSUS/CBP classification for the components).

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How do you suppose tariffs will reduce forced and child labor? I’m not being snarky. I’m legitimately curious how paying the US government a tax is going to affect how any other county operates their manufacturing businesses.

We know from experience that the importers will continue to import these products as it’s cheaper to do so (even with tariffs in place) than it would be to manufacture them here. There are also some products that the US does not have the materials/facilities/capabilities to produce at all.

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Oh yes I forgot about that but I remember now.

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A tariff can only help indirectly with forced labor—it doesn’t “fix” forced labor by itself.

The theory is economic leverage is deterrence. There is no guarantee that it will actually change anything, but if it hurts their economy enough it possibly could change some things about.

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I was thinking the same, how is this going to stop chid labor and low wages? Just going to happen because China is so honest and respectful really want to care and do the right thing. I don’t get the connection with tariffs and doing the correct thing? I suspect it isn’t hurting China’s economy at all or very little, it is certainly hurting our country. I don’t think Trumps plan has done what he thought it would, he does not seem one to admit a mistake.

Tariffs are hurting China by increasing the cost of Chinese goods sold in America, leading to reduced sales and decreased profits for the Chinese, which, in turn causes direct economic strain.

Since 2024 USA imports of Chinese goods are down by around 30%.

So you don’t like that we have imposed tariffs on China and we now pay more for their products??

You are angry because China steals and resells sculpts along with tons of other products, spy on our people, steal data and a plethora of who knows what else yet you feel there should be no repercussions for them at all? Just because cheap Chinese made stuff costs more now?

What would you do if you were in a position of power to change things?
I would like to hear your input that would solve these issues.

We are our own worst enemy (me included as the convenience of Amazon has crept into my life in a big way)

We gripe that nothing is American made anymore but clamor for the cheap imitations foisted on us by China.

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