Ive always used to do a couple layers of flesh and then one or 2 mottle layers but the mottle is always too red. Should I do a mottle layer first then flesh over it along with other colors? (blues, purples ect) Thanks!
I don’t see why not. Which layer at which stage is a personal preference, there’s really not a wrong way. You can always add more mottling later if you need.
Flesh first because red and blue will stain the vinyl (Thanks, Kim @ customdollBaby.com)
What do you use for flesh if I may ask?
@DancesWithDolls I use flesh 02 and flesh 08 from BB
I do several mottling layers red, blue, green, purple, yellow, burnt umber…no flesh at all.
I seldom use flesh, but when I do it is usually to tone down my mottles or veins.
I don’t do any flesh either, prime colors then on to mottling n creases in layers then a couple of final washes matte done yay wow wish it went that fast in real life lol
I do one flesh if I do not do a wash first, then veins, Then two flesh, then mottle yellow, purple, reds, blue where I need it. Then one flesh and a bit more mottling, more flesh if I feel it needs it. Creases, blush up and umber wash on most kits I do (not Jesse kit I did though.)
I use flesh through out my painting. But, I usually try for very light skin tones. One day I want to try a baby with no flesh, but I have never done this… And don’t like to ruin things if it doesn’t work. And I am not a fan of stripping dolls. Yuck.
What is the difference between washes and fleshes? Is it just the colors?
Flesh is a wee bit thicker than a wash. It is flesh colored and it is dabbed on with a sponge. I do several layers of flesh to start and then my mottle.I then do my washes. It appears that if a wash is done over a couple of layers of flesh, the washes appear more translucent looking. It is like the wash has something to “cling” to.
Yes, Jenni, the only difference is the color used. A flesh layer is simply a wash using a flesh tone. That had me confused for the longest time, too.
Also a flesh tone usually adds little pin sized white dots that add visual texture to the skin.
I used to do flesh on the older vinyl, too, but the newer lighter vinyl is so great that I don’t use flesh now unless it’s at the very end and I need to highlight an area for some reason.
YES! You are totally right!
The reason that a flesh wash makes sense to me is, if you start painting with a red or blue and don’t like the placement or intensity, the “virgin vinyl” can stain. The quick flesh layer takes away that risk and gives a nice finish to add the details to. I’ve been adding a layer of flesh over everything toward the end. Maybe over kill? I like the depth it gives tho’
All that with the disclaimer of my newbie status. I bow to the masters here on the forum and respect their experience which counts for WAY more than "what I am doing because I watched a tutorial"
I like to start and end with flesh. At the beginning, it gives a base coat and the end…well, we want certain things to appear under the skin why not put skin over them? I don’t always use flesh tones though. Sometimes its warm or cool washes or both. There’s just so many ways to do it.
I’ve been at this for 14 years and I’m STILL learning, still trying new things. I don’t have a clear cut recipe, even though I tried that, too…each one lets me know when they’re done and I love when that happens. Soooooo…a dab of flesh here or there? Okey dokey! A little more mottling??? Alrighty, then! This brow needs another hair or two? DONE…LOL…see what I mean?
The great thing about reborning is this: we could ask a hundred people how they do it, step by step, and everyone would have a different way that makes their art unique. There is no right or wrong way, that’s the best part! To each their own, just keep making babies!