I don’t see any difference. I add the liquithin to the irrisistibles paint. But then for washes I thin it down more with gamsol. It mixes fine for me. My only problem with IRHP is that I have to bake for 15 minutes to get it to cure.
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Both trustworthy tutorials i have seen it seems way different that ghsp.
She said she felt like she didn’t do well with air dry, either.
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Ah. Well there it is then lol just might not be the hobby for her then. Thats a pretty quick start to hate imo
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You have to do whats right for you. But i want to show you something. Ive been a reborn artist for over 20 years. A lot of my first dolls ended up in the trash. Then i had one i liked. Here.
Now as a seasoned artist i see so much wrong with her. Sooo much.
But i kept trying. And now…
But its the same with anything. I started trying to make stuffed animals. This is my first ever. A cat i made years ago.
And now…
You have to decide if you like it enough to keep trying. If you do i recommend air dry. After genesis shut down it seems to be a crap shoot of heat set. Im building up my air dry supplies so i can switch which is why i havent made a doll in a long while.
Its also okay to move on to something else.
But everything. Everything. Takes time to learn.
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You need to have patients. I started with Genesis heat set about 7.5 years ago and I loved it. I had/have a Wonderful online mentor. She told me when I first started that I would get a technique going with painted hair because I was frustrated about how mine was turning out. Out of the hundreds of dolls that I have painted, there have been a Handful of dolls that I loved their painted hair. I Never got ahold of the technique. I Hate (and I do not like using that word) doing the hair. I dread when my dolls are at the hair point in reborning.
I will never be prototype quality and I am okay with that. I know my limitations. I try not to root too much because my hands are almost 65 years old and they don’t like rooting Plus I’m not great at that lol. ALL of this said, I have repeat customers that love my work. I do not skimp on the painting process and it shows. You will be fine but you can’t paint one doll and give up. I’ve wanted to do that so much over the years because of the hair thing and I don’t want to sell bald dolls. They just aren’t very popular. Keep trying 
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I see people trying to encourage you to keep trying. I hate to sound negative. But if you aren’t having fun, don’t keep trying. Move on. This hobby isn’t for everyone. And it’s expensive and time consuming. I see no reason to keep spending money on a hobby that doesn’t fill you with joy. Find a different hobby. If you love it, stick with it. If you don’t, don’t stress over it. Move on and keep searching to you find the right thing for you. There’s nothing wrong with moving on. Find something that you love.
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Did you do the entire kit? Maybe just do one practice limb at at time till you get the mix just right. If one doesn’t turn out, do another differently. Then you can compare parts side by side till you get it right. Write down your recipes to track progress.
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Exact my thoughts.
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Yes i did i was on the second layer.
The IRHSP has its own learning curve. It is one that you really need to use their thinning product to make it work its best. The Liquithin makes the pigments perform much better. However, the paint itself is sort of sticky when wet on the vinyl and does not flash off. This makes it different than using Genesis or Winton oils or air dry. It is honestly not my favorite paint but I could make it work if I had to.
You have 2 things going on here: #1 you are a novice and are going to need time to learn how to paint realistic looking skin tones. #2 you were just in the process of learning the feel for air dry paints as well and decided to make a change in paints before you actually got comfortable with painting a well done baby (going off of what you said about your attempts). Regardless if which paint system you choose to use it will take time and patience to learn to paint a nice reborn baby. Very few people make a fabulous baby right off the bat. There are exceptions to that rule (JoyLynn comes to mind) but most of us had to go through several attempts before we found our groove. When I started in 2004, my babies were ugly little bubs with rosy blushed cheeks, red lips, big lashes and wigs! I thought they were beautiful at the time but I soon learned better. But I kept making them because I just loved the process of doing it. Back then there was more room in the market for “dolly” looking reborn babies and I was able to make and sell them for what I had in them to keep on practicing. I took me a few years to get better. Take a look at this album starting at the bottom photos and go up to see. You will get a good laugh! Lil Dumplins 2004-2013 Photo Gallery by Angie Jones at pbase.com
Bottom line is you reborn because you love it. You love it because you love the process of learning. Not because you always have success. If you find it frustrates you and you don’t enjoy the process then it may not be for you. But you will figure it out either way it falls for you if you give yourself some time.
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I’m just tossing an observation out there. I’ve been reborning for almost 6 years. I lurked on the forum for over a year before that, reading every single thread to absorb all I could. As well as watching & rewatching tons of YouTube tutorials and videos. In all that time I’ve never seen anyone come on here or go online and say they “hate” reborning. Most of us have said it’s hard, trying, frustrating, patience testing, not their skill set, not for them, etc. But if you’ve not painted and completed a doll with either method, and only got to layer 2 your next try and you’re saying you hate it - this is definitely not the hobby for you - no matter what advice you’re given. Why not just be a collector and enjoy the finished babies?
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If you have fun to paint and patience than i say keep on moving but if you are not than it is not your hobby
Try to enjoy painting after everly layer you see become it more and more a baby
And show us if you like to see your reborn we maybe can give you some advice
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Its okay to move on to something else. I did. You can still be a part of the forum and enjoy everyone’s babies. Try something else. There may be another hobby that calls to you.
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I like the idea of beign able to create something so realistic that people question whether its a doll or not and i do love art. Im just getting frustrated with the paint and i really do want to do well in it
Well said. Thats why i said hate was such a strong word for a high learning hobby right off the bat 
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If you want to do well. Then keep trying. And realize its okay to make mistakes. Its okay to struggle. What matters is you keep trying.
There are no mistakes. Only happy accidents.
If. And only if. You truly enjoy it.
If you have a passion for it you CAN learn to do it.
I recommend air dry if you decide to keep at it. The ladies here are a treasure trove of help and adivce to get you where you want to be.
If not. Thats okay. Find something else.
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You could try some other type of paint. But know that you won’t instantly reach that level of artistry. The people who can make super realistic babies have had years and years of practice.
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There’s just no logical reason to jump from one kind of paint to another when you haven’t put in enough time to master the 1st kind. If you master Genesis and decide to try air dry, or vice versa, is one thing. But a couple layers with one and one layer of the other - you’re not going to be good at either that early in. For Genesis and IRHS paints it’s all about the thinning & mixing. For air dry it’s the dilution. You’re not going to master either out the gate. Especially if you’re not using a crucial ingredient. You can’t watch a video or two, read a couple blurbs and be well skilled. Skill takes practice, patience and time. Period. Not trying to be mean or negative - just realistic. After 6 years of painting I’m just in the last year achieving a very realistic skin tone.
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I have had no issues using IRHSP and Gamsol! I like liquithin for some things, but not everything I do requires it. More than likely @Butterfly, it just needed stirred for a longer time. If you can see tiny particles at all, it isn’t dissolved. This sometimes happens with genesis that is slightly dried out.
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