Why is it so hard to get honest opinions?


#1

It seems so hit or miss around here. People ask for honest opinions and either no one responds, or most say the same thing. Just nice words. There have been plenty of babies posted on here and honestly i thought “oh… hmmmm” But i didn’t want to say anything for fear of hurting someones feelings. But if a post says flat out “honest opinions wanted”, then why don’t people do that? I want REAL critiques of my babies!! My feelings will not be hurt. So i get some posts that are 3 pages with people giving praise, and some critiques, or i get a post with 40 views and not one comment??? What does that mean??? Does it mean the baby sucks and no one wants to say anything?? I just don’t get it. Maybe i am annoyed and shouldn’t be. I don’t know. But i really like this forum and it is such a great place to advice and learn new things. I just wish everyone would be honest! And if you read a post that asks for an opinion… for heaven sakes… LEAVE ONE. Please???


#2

It’s because no one wants to hurt other people’s feelings. I wish there was board on here for honest critiques. Honest opinions is the only way to improve techniques. Just for the record. I love what you did with your Milo. In my humble opinion, Milo is a difficult sculpt, because he does not really have much expression in his face. You did a wonderful job with him.


#3

Thanks!! I wasn’t sure where i was gonna go with him. He was expressionless!! LOL! and his hands and feet were kinda weird too. Not the best sculpt, but he did turn out fabulous! I was very proud of him Thanks!!! and see how many people viewed this thread??? and only you commented… I just don’t get it. weird.


#4

Ok I just have to reply here! I am still very new to reborning so I often read the post but don’t reply because I feel like I’m not qualified to give critiques. However I do want to see what other who have been reborning have to say so that I can learn. Never thought about how it would seem to see how many have viewed but not replied.


#5

I just read this post and I think you have great babies.


#6

Hey, i posted on your thread… gave my honest opinion. I get lots of views and no post also… I thought tht means whatever i posted sucked

Who knows does my feeling get hurt? Sure, that’s why i use to hardly ever post my work., But this year i made a promise to myself that i was going to try and post more of my work…even if it is painful, and no one responds.

The ladies here have been great! You also have to remember–sometimes people come back more then once to see what other have posted…so tht could be it also. Well–that’s what i tell myself anyway


#7

i feel the same way sometimes so i understand


#8

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Hey, i posted on your thread… gave my honest opinion. I get lots of views and no post also… I thought tht means whatever i posted sucked

Who knows does my feeling get hurt? Sure, that’s why i use to hardly ever post my work., But this year i made a promise to myself that i was going to try and post more of my work…even if it is painful, and no one responds.

The ladies here have been great! You also have to remember–sometimes people come back more then once to see what other have posted…so tht could be it also. Well–that’s what i tell myself anyway

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I don’t think you should ever be worried about your work. Your Brayden is absolutely wonderful!!


#9

Thanks Maggie I love your siggy also :0)


#10

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It’s because no one wants to hurt other people’s feelings. I wish there was board on here for honest critiques. Honest opinions is the only way to improve techniques. Just for the record. I love what you did with your Milo. In my humble opinion, Milo is a difficult sculpt, because he does not really have much expression in his face. You did a wonderful job with him.

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I agree that if a person asks for honest opinions, then they should not be shocked when they get one that wasn’t quite to their expectations. I admit that I find it difficult with people who post pics of the their first or second reborns. I know that the person worked very hard and is proud of their baby, but very few people hit the ground running in this art form. It’s true that some people are naturals. They usually have a fairly strong background in art, though. But, even those people have to have at least a few dolls under their belts before they produce a master piece. The objective is to be honest and tactful.


#11

— Begin quote from “luv2Lrn”

Hey, i posted on your thread… gave my honest opinion. I get lots of views and no post also… I thought tht means whatever i posted sucked

Who knows does my feeling get hurt? Sure, that’s why i use to hardly ever post my work., But this year i made a promise to myself that i was going to try and post more of my work…even if it is painful, and no one responds.

The ladies here have been great! You also have to remember–sometimes people come back more then once to see what other have posted…so tht could be it also. Well–that’s what i tell myself anyway

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Yes you did!! And thank you!! you have given opinions on quite a few of my posts and i am thankful for that! And yes, i realize that some people just come back to view it again and don’t leave another post. I understand that. I think kmost people just don’t leave a comment though… and that is annoying to me LOL! Seriously, i’m a big girl, i can take it!! I NEED people who know what they are looking at to tell me how i am doing. All of my friends and family think my dolls are amazing because they have never seen any other ones before!!! That doesn’t help me LOL! I just need more eyes to critique my work. I usually see things that need to be fixed, but not all. I don’t know how to price my stuff because i don’t know how they compare to other dolls. I look at the ones on ebay and think “oh my, that doll is horrible!” LOL!


#12

Well, to be perfectly honest, I started looking at your babies, got distracted and ended up making an “about” page on Etsy…or trying to. I can’t quite get my pics small enough to get it done. Then I went to Facebook to see if there are any new pictures of Sophia. Then I checked to see how many people have looked at our “house for sale” in homefinder. Then I had to have a brownie. See? That’s how I am…I flit back and forth and then forget what I was doing in the first place. Yep. I’m dingy that way. Wait…what were we talking about?


#13

lol!!!


#14

I just “liked” you on FB and got to see your very adorable Anna again


#15

I am guilty of looking and not posting. Im so new to reborning that i don’t feel that I should be giving advise, even if it is one of the OH… Hmmmmm babies. Lol I know mine are not perfect and I’m still learning and I tend to go to light then to dark with colors. I look forward to the day I can produce babies as good as some of y’all.
I will be honest I love ur milo. I just wish he had hair. I have a lulu kit and my husband won’t let me put hair on him, so he has a cap on. I like hair on the bigger babies, thats just my opinion. And I love your Anna baby I would not change anything.


#16

— Begin quote from “becky61779”

— Begin quote from “luv2Lrn”

Hey, i posted on your thread… gave my honest opinion. I get lots of views and no post also… I thought tht means whatever i posted sucked

Who knows does my feeling get hurt? Sure, that’s why i use to hardly ever post my work., But this year i made a promise to myself that i was going to try and post more of my work…even if it is painful, and no one responds.

The ladies here have been great! You also have to remember–sometimes people come back more then once to see what other have posted…so tht could be it also. Well–that’s what i tell myself anyway

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Yes you did!! And thank you!! you have given opinions on quite a few of my posts and i am thankful for that! And yes, i realize that some people just come back to view it again and don’t leave another post. I understand that. I think kmost people just don’t leave a comment though… and that is annoying to me LOL! Seriously, i’m a big girl, i can take it!! I NEED people who know what they are looking at to tell me how i am doing. All of my friends and family think my dolls are amazing because they have never seen any other ones before!!! That doesn’t help me LOL! I just need more eyes to critique my work. I usually see things that need to be fixed, but not all. I don’t know how to price my stuff because i don’t know how they compare to other dolls. I look at the ones on ebay and think “oh my, that doll is horrible!” LOL!

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I understand what you are saying, in order to improve we need the honest truth…we should hve an area that reads Honest Critiques. Maybe BB can help us out with that…


#17

— Begin quote from “becky61779”

It seems so hit or miss around here. People ask for honest opinions and either no one responds, or most say the same thing. Just nice words. There have been plenty of babies posted on here and honestly i thought “oh… hmmmm” But i didn’t want to say anything for fear of hurting someones feelings. But if a post says flat out “honest opinions wanted”, then why don’t people do that? I want REAL critiques of my babies!! My feelings will not be hurt. So i get some posts that are 3 pages with people giving praise, and some critiques, or i get a post with 40 views and not one comment??? What does that mean??? Does it mean the baby sucks and no one wants to say anything?? I just don’t get it. Maybe i am annoyed and shouldn’t be. I don’t know. But i really like this forum and it is such a great place to advice and learn new things. I just wish everyone would be honest! And if you read a post that asks for an opinion… for heaven sakes… LEAVE ONE. Please???

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Becky the reason is most people ask for honest critiques but when you give them your honest critiques they get there felling hurt so everyone has just started say how cute the babies are to keep from causing problems! I really wish it was not that way because that is the only way we can get better is by learning from what we may be doing wrong!


#18

Becky this is a problem everywhere unless there is a separate area for critiquing. Maybe in the REBORN SHOWCASE we could either put “HAVE A LOOK” or “PLEASE CRITIQUE” or something similar in our heading so people would know if we REALLY want critiques or just pats on the back. We are all capable of being gentle and loving while we help and guide someone in an area that needs a bit of tweaking. I don’t think anyone is out to hurt anyones feelings. It would be WONDERFUL if we had a sub-heading in the showcase are for this but until that day we can make it work with a bit of creativity. It would only take a few examples and everyone would pick up on the idea.

I think if you want critiquing it doesn’t have to be done publicly…you could ask for others to PM you with help…sometimes that is easier for people.

I am sorry this has been happening but the huge numbers of views and small numbers of comments is also pretty normal on forums. It seems there is a core group who communicate regularly and a ton of people who just read.

For the record: your are doing great. I’m not a fan of Milo but I almost like him now since I saw yours.
p.s. where did the pics of Milo and Anna go? did you delete them?


#19

I am guilty of reading & not posting. This is my entertainment since I don’t have TV. I don’t post because I am not a reborn artist. I am the one drooling over all the lovely babies I can never have!! Looking is free and so I look!! I can give my opinions of what I look for as an adoptive mommy but that’s all I can do!! I don’t/didn’t think that is what was being asked for so I keep my yap shut & just drool!!


#20

The old saying… " don’t say anything if you have nothing nice to say." often rings true here.
I’m a overly blunt person and at my ripe old age have learned that not everyone wants to hear truth regardless of how it’s delivered. It’s also important to remember that if your new or a veteran in any art form that it should always be a personal enriching experience. Sure having critique on your current work may be helpful in many ways, it also can hinder your own personal spin or perspective.
That being said… Everyone loves encouragement and compliments when based on honest interest.
But empty compliments or advice is not so great.
Keeping reborning for the sheer love of this art form and appreciate all and any response you get.
It’s not anyones duty here to be our judge and jury. But rather a place to share this art form.

I am my own worst critic, but any feedback here is just icing on the cake.