Wow. almost ten years and people are still interested!
And somehow a student found it (which makes me think they re on here longer than the 2 hour max we allow)
Just like many of the responses here, there were many hair triggers pulled.
At first I thought "wait a minute…why do my threads get shut down? But that was quickly replaced with well thank goodness at ;least this was left up because it brings a LOT of what we dont say to the surface and the tea party turns into a mosh pit,
That Berenguer may have been that adoptive mom’s treasure and joy. I know many of you are aware, but Denise Pratt started with Berenger. And that is what was offered when Bountiful started. We really must be careful when someone is holding their reborn in their arms because all too often someone will leave glowing feedback for an artist and then 6 months later, after listening to another artists. now feels like that baby is substandard,
I will start with the clever class study that evolved.
This was meant to be a one week project, but it is turning into a month long project but we were actually running out of subject matter that evoked excitement, This one is working so well we haven’t had one absent or tardy (s0 far)
We decided to take one kit and have everyone do a part of it. Whatever they thought they could offer. We brought in partitions for 2 reasons, concentration and privacy. We didn’t want them to see what the last/next artist did. We have 10 heads. All the same and its Fei Yen (I know, how much more cruel could we be but I LOVE that little scowl and adore CM’s sculpts).
Once they have finished their part, they put it in the box, initial the transparency report and then take another box with the head they have not done yet. We take THAT box and place it at the beginning so that it can dry. . We really wish we would have come up with this at the very beginning because then we could have waited 24 hours for each application to dry. Acrylics change so much in the first 24 hours you never now what you have until the next day.
They are given the full hour / We label each head with what they are to do. If the last head was eyes (eye sockets and surrounding tissue) the next one may be mouth, ears, nose etc. I know it should not take an hour to do those small areas, but you would be surprised with how many say at the end of class "I wasn’t done yet!"
They start withe the “washes” and continue from there. So since it is done in a specific order, more than likely they know what the next artist is doing. However once we get to detailing this can change. After their initials they put date time and what they did.
We’ve taken some sneak peeks and already we see their personalities come out and we can identify who did what. These are going to be your biggest competition because they already know what to expect of themselves.
One thing I definitely agreed with: ARtists are born. You either are or you aren’t. If you have the passion and desire, the rest is history. But people know when they arent. They tell you "I cant draw a straight line…
Otherwise we would all have a studio full of dolls and no buyers. Even when I taught AutoCAD and managed engineers designers and architects in the field, you new who the artists were because they HATED CAD - they felt it eliminated their personal design freedom.
But lets talk about the elephant in the room. I agree there is a lot of mollycoddling here. But just like everything else, there are people who want to know if they are doing good and others who just want stroking.
There is also a way of doing a critique that does not involve bullying.
“I have seen you do much better than this”
“Have you thought of abandoning that technique and trying…”
“Let me show you an example of what I am talking about”
We dont need to be cruel about it. And responding in a mean vein to someone else who you believe is being cruel makes you no different than that person. Raise people to your level, Don’t lower yourself to theirs
I dont feel anyone has the right to determine who is and who is not not an artist. Art is a matter of personal taste. if everyone was drawn to the same thing, I wouldn’t sell one doll being that I am predominantly a fantasy artist. When I started my art career over 40 years ago I was a surrealist. My art got extreme reactions, few were lukewarm. People either loved it or hated it.
This OP brought back the years of my painful showings in galleries.
The days of brick and mortar galleries is fading into the landscape since you can find so much online. But the big galleries will be here forever. ANd as the galleries lessen the competition is becoming more cutthroat than ever.
First after you have chosen your pieces, you had to create slides. You then gathered up your VERY favorites along with the slides, boarded a city bus (both Chicago and New York) and on the way to the gallery that FINALLY gave you an appointment, you had people bumping into you some asking to see your work, some crushing it physically. And you had all that time to question yourself and wonder WHY DIDN’T I BRING …".
Once you got to the gallery, the curator would have their secretary look over your work first. Yes, THE SECRETARY! Who is most likely working there because they think their work deserves to be shown, so expect bitterness and a lot of cookie crumbs all over your precious pieces because you cannot expect him/her to starve while doing their job. The best thing that could happen at this moment is for the curator to come walking thru. But when that happens you better hope that secretary has no open beverages, because they jump up and do a lot of scurrying so they are not accused of being arrogantly complacent.
Now I could go on and on with this saga but the best thing I did for my class was have them watch The Velvet Buzzsaw (sans the gratuitous sex).
They were all a bit dumbfounded. And scared. Almost completely missing the whole HORROR genre’ of it because to them the horror was in the critics at the showings.
I will admit I have gotten on here and seen things that made me jump back and wonder. Especially when I saw one HUGE compliment after another.
Some students felt strongly this was a way of making certain your competition was not your competition
If someone is nowhere as good as you THINK they should be, your work will sell for more my friend, not less.
From what I have gleaned in the almost 2 years I have been here is there are 3 kinds
The artist who really wants critique and is ready to take it, the artist who would like to be critiqued but when it happens is insultied and the show offs.
I agree if you really want to help them, do it privately because public critique is just humiliation.
If you think this art deserves better, then do better.
WHen I first started doing this I was HORRID. I commented and questioned many things. Some deserved it, some didnt. But my delivery was caustic.
And then I started to create my own reborns and it was so painful I just cant…
I was reigned in a few times here, but some of the way it was done was unnecessary. Truly if you really care and dont want something to get out of hand or repeated, the best way to do that is with your natural grace and eloquence. This gentle art deserves kindness. Even when it is not given by the person you are responding to, you have a chance to help them find that within themselves.
Once that cattiness came from outside of this forum because I made the bad decision to post my address,
I have aspergers. It took a long time for me to come to terms with that diagnosis. But it also answered many questions.
I say things that really sound so much different in my head.
When I created a listing I have to be especially careful because what I THINK I included is usually not there. Very often I will get many emails about my listing that are laziness on the part of the shopper, but in between there are legitimate concerns. ANd someone will be up to their third email saying "Please just tell me what is the cost [height ,color] etc into something its not.
All of you who are on here and give your time are really my best teachers/instructors.
Your audience is not just the members here, but a whole wonderful world of creative people just looking for guidance.
And I for one am grateful!